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Case: Envelope of PTA money
A fourth grade student discovered that an envelope of PTA money that his mother gave him to give to the principal was missing from his backpack while he was in his classroom. The teacher asked everyone in the class to look for the envelope. When it was not found, the teacher requested that everyone empty their backpacks and jackets and be subjected to a search. The envelope of money was still not found. The next day, a set of parents filed a complaint with the school principal protesting the search of their daughter. Was this search reasonable under the circumstances? Why or why not?
Solution: (Rates are posted for this solution!)
The search was not reasonable under the circumstances. The teacher cannot search the book bags of the entire class and certainly not in the presence of other students. I would have asked the student to double check his book bag after none of the students admitted to finding the envelope with the money. Most PTA dues are generally three to five dollars. If there was no indication that someone may have taken the money, I would not have searched the entire class. This protocol is for the principal or other administration. I would inform the parents to make them aware of the loss. |
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| Comments: I agree with this solution because it was not right to search through all of the students' stuff. If the money was not found after asking the students to look through their things I would have notified administration and waited for their advice. |
| Rated On: October 19, 2014 3:02 pm |
| Rated By: yjeNus |
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| Comments: The search was not reasonable in my opinion, especially in front of other students. Administration should have been contacted. |
| Rated On: October 19, 2014 3:23 pm |
| Rated By: uJasuX |
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| Comments: I agree with this solution. It would have been better to bring this to the attention of the principal or administration. |
| Rated On: October 19, 2014 8:10 pm |
| Rated By: SuGaNe |
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| Comments: I agree that any searches that are performed should be done by and with the authority of school administration. |
| Rated On: October 19, 2014 11:00 pm |
| Rated By: JabuDu |
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| Comments: If I were in this situation, I would do exactly this. It is wrong to search students' backpacks in front of the class. Asking the students to double check or report the loss to administration would be a good solution. |
| Rated On: October 20, 2014 12:54 am |
| Rated By: SegaHu |
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| Comments: I completely agree, and would do this myself. |
| Rated On: October 21, 2014 1:08 am |
| Rated By: qyryMa |
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| Comments: I agree, teachers should not search the students back packs. |
| Rated On: February 17, 2015 6:30 pm |
| Rated By: ehaZeb |
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| Comments: I agree with this solution. |
| Rated On: February 25, 2015 7:07 pm |
| Rated By: aNaQev |
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| Comments: I agree |
| Rated On: February 27, 2015 11:40 pm |
| Rated By: BuMynu |
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| Comments: Administration should have been informed before action was taken. |
| Rated On: February 28, 2015 10:50 pm |
| Rated By: JugaVu |
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| Comments: I agree with this statement because this can really impact the students as usually it is up to principal or administration. By making the parent informed and asking the students to please double check their backpacks would have been enough. I would have also spoke to the student that had the money to see if the student remembers if it was misplaced maybe at the house or if they remember the last time they had the money- sometimes backtracking someone's steps can help find an item that has gone missing. |
| Rated On: March 1, 2015 4:49 am |
| Rated By: aHeXud |
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| Comments: I agree that it was not appropriate for the teacher to search the student's backpacks. |
| Rated On: March 1, 2015 6:37 am |
| Rated By: vuDybe |
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| Comments: I agree that the search was not reasonable under the circumstances. For the teacher to have been able to look at all the bags would have to get the principal and/or administration involved and would not have been worth the loss of three to five dollars. I think the teacher did the right thing by having the students look themselves and once all of them said no it should have been left alone or called the principal. |
| Rated On: March 2, 2015 3:11 am |
| Rated By: NaHuVa |
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| Comments: I like this solution. |
| Rated On: March 2, 2015 3:53 am |
| Rated By: XudaBy |
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| Comments: Agreed! She could have asked the students to double check, but searching students can be risky! |
| Rated On: March 11, 2015 12:02 pm |
| Rated By: yQaran |
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| Comments: Agreed. The amount money is not really the issue. Searching students is for administration if necessary. |
| Rated On: March 16, 2015 1:40 am |
| Rated By: aheGeG |
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| Comments: I agree this solution. I feel that the teacher should not have searched the students things. |
| Rated On: July 5, 2015 10:00 pm |
| Rated By: Brittany Duce |
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| The suggested solution is respectful of the individual (student) |
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| Comments: If I were in this situation, I would exactly do this. |
| Rated On: October 17, 2015 2:37 pm |
| Rated By: seqeJe |
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| The suggested solution is respectful of the individual (student) |
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| Comments: I agree with this post because it calls out the inappropriate actions of the teacher. It also provides the correct response to the problem by suggesting a solution. |
| Rated On: October 19, 2015 2:21 am |
| Rated By: eRymaT |
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| The suggested solution is respectful of the individual (student) |
No
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| Comments: I actually don't agree with this. I don't think it would be appropriate to ask the whole class to look for it because it has money in it. Now a whole class of students know there is an envelope with money in it laying around somewhere. If they find it they may not report it. They may just keep the money for themselves. |
| Rated On: October 13, 2018 10:45 pm |
| Rated By: byXyha |
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| Comments: I think it is important that educators know when they should not take action into their own hand. |
| Rated On: March 7, 2021 9:16 pm |
| Rated By: WyJyGa |
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| Comments: I agree! It is not the teacher's position to search the students. |
| Rated On: October 10, 2022 5:49 pm |
| Rated By: Xetuzu |
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| Comments: I like your solution |
| Rated On: October 12, 2022 11:53 pm |
| Rated By: VuBytu |
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